What if we all woke up one day. Listening to Drs. Jessica Ribeiro and Joe Franklin is kind of like that; waking up to a new day and a new way to look at what we have assumed for so long when it comes to risk. Joe electrified the crowd at AAS with a keynote that introduced a new paradigm for suicide research. Later Jess continued the discussion by questioning "What We Risk by Maintaining the Status Quo About Suicide Risk". Here we had the chance to talk with both at once and listen has they riffed on their own work and their work in common.